Last Friday I suggested that we do Ch. 3 and a small part of Ch. 4 for this week, but I think it may be better to just plan to do Ch. 3 and look at the "homework problem" from Ch. 2 (Problem 5 on pp. 38-39), and then spend 2 weeks going through Ch. 4 (so spreading over 3 weeks what I originally thought we should try to do in 2 weeks). It's unclear to me what the best format is for the meetings, but I propose that we try something a bit different this coming Friday. Let's start with a discussion of Ch. 3 (and then go to the Ch. 2 data analysis problem afterwards). Let's see how it goes if we have different people serve as discussion leaders for the various sections. (Note: Some sections are rather short and there may not be much to discuss.) Each discussion leader can start by giving a 2 to 5 sentence description of what the section is about, and then perhaps mention a few specific points to discuss (and we'll discuss them as we go along). Try to have at least one question that you know the answer to ask the others who may not have read the section as carefully, and picked up on a subtle point pertaining to it. Also, try to have a related question to ask the others that you don't know the answer to. (My guess that Harrell being unclear will allow you to identify at least one such question.) I'll make a point to have one question for each discussion leader about the section. I think by discussing each section a bit in turn will allow us to pick up on some points that a quick reading may have left undiscovered, and that the questions and answers will help us all engage the material. I believe that the main point of a group like this is for each of us to try to get truly comfortable with the material in the book. (The more things you let slip by now, the harder it will be to quickly learn new material in the future.) I'll make the following discussion leader assignments, giving the longer sections to the seasoned Friday afternoon members, and the shorter sections to the newbies. (I'll let Jill off of the hook this week completely, since her formal statistics background is less than what the rest of us have. But I expect that Jill will be able to come up with some good questions --- like asking the discussion leader to put some passage into his own words, hoping that they will be clearer than Harrell's.) Sec 3.1 Charles P. Sec 3.2 James W. Sec 3.3 Mark L. Sec 3.4 Jim S. Sec 3.5 Arndt L. (This is a longish section, and perhaps it would be good to outline it --- help us break it down and identify the main points. (You can have an easier section next time.)) Sec 3.6 Allen K. Sec 3.7 Jim G. Sec 3.8 Don G. The rest (as well as those listed above) can take a look at the problem from Ch. 2. Also, everyone can ask about points in the first 2 chapters that are bothersome if we didn't get to them last week. Let's see how the discussion leader idea works --- if you don't like it we can consider some other format. CDS